Mon Oct 23 14:12:44 1995<BR>From: Zacharias.P.Thundy.3@nd.edu <BR> I liked Professor Stanbury's powerful visual interpretaion of the Knight's Tale.  I liked especially the section on visual poitics.  How accurate it is to say that we are not seeing what we are seeing.  Now when I reread the Knight's Prologue and the Tale, I seem to see what I have not seen before.  Now I see a political allegory in the Tale. Of course, what I see goes against all received wisdom on the date of the Tale and its resources. Now I see the political rivalry between Richard II and Henry IV in their powerful desire for the kingdom of England represented by Emilye.  Destiny  unites Henry Emilye and Palamon. I know what I say is only a venial sin, and so I don't have to gouge out my eye because you don't go to hell for committing venial sins!  --zach <p>
 Thu Oct 26 08:09:46 1995<BR>From:  <BR> Isn't there an antinomy between the eye and the gaze?  That is, "the gaze" is what IT (the Big Other) does to me -- the Thing that subjectivates me by making me an object (the picture, I realize, is looking at me).  The EYE is the trajectory of my own feeble vision, my sight that is easily obliterated ("plucked out") by the gaze.  That makes Emily the blot -- that anamorphic spot that gazes back, that acts *as if* animated, that turns spectator into spectacle .. but that remains as dead and empty as the skull in Holbein's "Ambassadors."<p>
 Thu Oct 26 23:03:29 1995<BR>From: Arthur Lindley  elllindl\@leonis.nus.sg <BR> Very interesting and mostly persuasive.  Do you want to comment <BR>on the fact that Arcite, riding with 'his helm ydon/...for to shewe <BR>his face' (2676-77), is killed because he's looking at Emelye and not<BR>where he's going?  I also expected you to refer to the line that describes<BR>her response ('she agayn hym caste a freendlich ye', 2680), since it<BR>echoes the Matthean text you started with.  Do you take the term as <BR>disempowering the female gaze?<p>
 Tue Nov  7 19:30:36 1995<BR>From: amschuette\@hcacad.holycross.edu <BR> A persuasive paper on the visual in The Knight's tale. I would be<BR>interested to read about the ideas of this paper in relation to other<BR>Canterbury tales. Is there any case for visual politics in the Wife of <BR>Bath's tale?<p>
 Mon Nov 20 04:02:29 1995<BR>From: mgxavier\\@hcacad.holycross.edu <BR> A very interesting take on The Knight's <BR>Tale and a rather convincing one at that. Congratulations on taking a modern approach to a text, which I belived could not warrant one.<BR>To add to your discussion of visual politics in The Knight's Tale, <BR>I think that it would be interesting to adress the scene when Arcite <BR>receives a vision at night which urges him to return to see Emelye.